Wednesday, October 31, 2012

On the New Daemons FAQ

Here's the major (and only) change from the new Daemons FAQ:

Q: Do models chosen from Codex: Chaos Daemons and / or the White Dwarf, August 2012, Codex: Chaos Daemons official update have the Daemon special rule from the Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook, or do they have the Daemon army special rule from Codex: Chaos Daemons? (p27)
A: All models from Codex: Chaos Daemons and/or the White Dwarf, August 2012, Codex: Daemons official update have the Daemon army special rule listed in Codex: Chaos Daemons with the addition of the Fear special rule from the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook and a 5+ invulnerable save.

So, daemons get the best of both worlds: fear from the rulebook, eternal warrior and everything else from the Daemons codex.  Given the space marine heavy meta-game, fear won't be doing much for us, but its all good.

Yet, there's many unresolved questions arising.  Here's a selection.
* Are Flamers' invulernable save 4+ or 5+?  (they are Tzeentch daemons, but the white dwarf update didn't list the save).  My thought is that all Tzeentch daemons must (by definition) have the mark of Tzeentch.
* Is Fateweaver 3+ or 5+?  I'd say 3+ since he gets a superposition of 3+ or 5+ from my reading of the FAQ.  So, which is he going to choose, I wonder?  (in addition, I'm fairly certain one has to take the best save if a model has more than one of a given type).
* Do Soul Grinders get a 5+ invulnerable save?  By this FAQ statement, yes!


Ian Logsdon said...

1. I have to say 5++, because the only place Marks of Chaos is mentioned is pg 76, and that only refers to Daemon Princes. Still, they have a 5++ 2 wounds and eternal warrior, so major improvement.

2. Fateweaver is 3++, the Invulnerable! rule from the codex states that the Sv value from a model's statline is their invulnerable save, this trumps anything in the codex.

3. Yes, grinders have a 5++, I need to pick one up so I can make the daemon engine spam list I've always wanted. 3 Helbrutes, 2 Blight Drones, a Heldrake, 2 Forge/Slaughterfiends, Defiler, Soul Grinder.

jabberjabber said...

Hi Ian -- I'd love to hear more about the daemon engine list! That sounds awesome!

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