The pre-order has been available since 10am UK today today, 12/July/2025.
And to kill the tension that might be in the room: I pre-ordered it.
So why did I pre-order it knowing that some, many, or perhaps most of the changes are not what I really wanted to see? I have to say that the miniatures alone are a massive pull factor for me. I actually like the Saturnine terminators and want them in my collection! I haven't yet planned out what legions I will use the miniatures for, but I'm going to look to see if there's another allied detachment that I might plausibly be able to take. I will also be looking to augment my World Eaters, and am tempted to expand my Shattered Legions Salamanders into a fuller main detachment. Beyond that, I will await reading the new rules.
I also ordered the Loyalist and Traitor books, along with the Knights / Titans book. I am leaving the others until later - perhaps Christmas? I think it will take longer than that to review the units within those books alone. I am also disappointed that there wasn't a massive re-stock of Heresy items available today. I might have bought (for example) Angron if he were available today since I was ordering. The lack of re-stock for such a major release is a real head-scratcher from an economic stand point.
Speaking of which: yes. I DO intend to review the units again for 3rd edition. I hope this will once again be a valuable resource to the community and will highlight to the rules designers what we have lost as a community. Indeed, if the rumour and leaks are true, then I will certainly be writing to Games Workshop / Warhammer about the invalidation of army choices. I would also encourage my readers to do the same. It is one thing to moan about it to each other on the internet, but another thing if we as a community get organised a start some petitions and pressure on the game designers to revise and renew unit options. All it would take would be a short pdf file which says something like:
Power Fist = +10 points, available for Tartaros terminators, ++ (etc.).
Combi-Meltas = +5 points, available for Raven Guard Mor Deythan, ++ (etc.).
Esoteric Weapon X = +20 points. Only available to Praetors or Psykers (etc., etc.).
i.e., it doesn't have to be long, or complicated, but would solve the immediate issue if it comes to pass.
4 comments:
I was thinking about getting the box but haven't got now, might change my mind after trying the game or may just pick up the terminators. I think my problem is less the options and more the lack of flavour in general, especially on characters. They clearly can write decent rules with like lotara, but mostly haven't. Gonna see if I can recruit some people back to 1e, I kinda think that was the best one (although it did have problems ofc, I think units/legions/chars had more flavour)
I'm glad you pre-ordered the box and are doing reviews for 3rd edition; you have helped us tons getting into 2nd edition.
As for the internet drama - I don't give a care. I pre-ordered it. I'm excited for the models and the new edition. Also I think a BIG thing people are glossing over... certain models missing loadouts in plastic (like Tartaros) could also be typos or mistakes. EVERY edition has major revisions by the end of the first couple months. Writing thousands of pages of rules between 6 books? There will be mistakes.
I'm going to stick with 2nd Edition, I've no idea what your reach is mate but perhaps you could supply us all with a template once you've digested what we've lost. We can then repost the link via twitter and other socials.
Great news that you’re going to be reviewing units again for 3ed, they were so, so useful for second! Thanks for all you do
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