Can you create an effective and well-themed army list to take on the challenge?
Overview
The Iron Warriors / Dark Angels / Mischievous Theives (delete as appropriate) have a large number of terminator armoured marines ready to stand against your spearhead. You must punch a hole through a large contingent of terminators and land raiders to reach the opposite side of the board. To succeed, you must have more points value of models in the enemies deployment zone than he / she kills of your army.
The army list challenge is to design a themed 1500 points army list to take on this challenge and run amok against an equivalent list of terminators backed up by land raider transports.
Rules
(1) Design a 1500 points army list from any codex to take on this mission.
(2) Post your army lists as a comment to this posting and suggest why they're well suited to this mission.
(3) Entries close at 01:00 GMT on January 14th.
(4) On that same day, I'll open a poll for Warpstone Flux readers to judge which army list they consider to be the "most effective army list that also best articulates the theme" (whatever readers interpret that to mean) out of all entrants.
(6) One entry per person please.
Remember that there are no prizes for these contests, beyond kudos, honour and entry in to the hall of fame.
Good Luck!
11 comments:
3 Monoliths-705
Lord with Warsycthe, Resorb, Solar Pulse, Phase Shifter-200
33 Warriors in a group of 17 and 16
Good luck killing more than the three Monoliths which deep strike in to the other guy's DZ using the gauss flux archs to stun all of the LRs while the warriors hopefully stay off the board
1500pt Chaos Space Marines 5th Ed (2007) Roster
(1496pts Total)
Selections:
HQ (255pts)
Chaos Sorcerer (125pts)
Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Lash of Submission (20pts), Mark of Slaanesh (5pts)
Chaos Sorcerer (130pts)
Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Lash of Submission (20pts), Mark of Slaanesh (5pts), Melta Bombs (5pts)
Troops (806pts)
Plague Marines (190pts)
5x Plague Marine (115pts), 2x Plasma Gun (30pts)
Chaos Rhino (45pts)
Combi-Weapon (10pts)
Plague Marines (190pts)
5x Plague Marine (115pts), 2x Plasma Gun (30pts)
Chaos Rhino (45pts)
Combi-Weapon (10pts)
Plague Marines (213pts)
6x Plague Marine (138pts), 2x Plasma Gun (30pts)
Chaos Rhino (45pts)
Combi-Weapon (10pts)
Plague Marines (213pts)
6x Plague Marine (138pts), 2x Plasma Gun (30pts)
Chaos Rhino (45pts)
Combi-Weapon (10pts)
Heavy Support (435pts)
Chaos Vindicator (145pts)
Daemonic Possession (20pts)
Chaos Vindicator (145pts)
Daemonic Possession (20pts)
Chaos Vindicator (145pts)
Daemonic Possession (20pts)
Vindicator + lash is a nasty combination, even more when it ignores terminator armour. You could go with lash+obliterators (for plasmacannons) but oblits cost more and I think vindis are better at 1500 points.
All Rhinos have combi-meltas. Combi-meltas+vindis should be enough to down any land raiders. Plague Marines were taken for the cheap double plasma.
Gundog8324: Three monoliths is enough to make any army scared!
Aleksi: I like the sheer amount of suppression firepower!
@Gundog: He's not gonna kill your Monoliths, he's gonna shoot/assault your Warriors to death and you're gonna lose by phase-out.
Dark Eldar are so perfect for this it's not even funny:
(1500 list)
Haemonculous (Shattershard)
4 Trueborn (3 Blasters)
1 Venom (Splinter Cannon)
4 Trueborn (3 Blasters)
1 Venom (Splinter Cannon)
3 Trueborn (3 Blasters)
1 Venom (Splinter Cannon)
5 Warriors (Blaster, Sybarite, Blast Pistol)
1 Raider (Flickerfields)
5 Warriors (Blaster, Sybarite, Blast Pistol)
1 Raider (Flickerfields)
5 Warriors (Blaster, Sybarite, Blast Pistol)
1 Raider (Flickerfields)
5 Warriors (Blaster, Sybarite, Blast Pistol)
1 Raider (Flickerfields)
1 Ravager (3 Disintegrators, Flickerfields)
1 Ravager (3 Disintegrators, Flickerfields)
1 Ravager (3 Disintegrators, Flickerfields)
Everything you have can move 24" if necessary and carries a constant 5++ to keep protected. You have twenty-one Lances that can shoot on the move and a ton more AP2/poison guns, which will evaporate all the Land Raiders almost immediately and quickly finish off even Assault Terminators. Your ability to move quickly and low individual value of each squad means that the Terminator's shooting will be fairly ineffective- each squad costs them 200+ pts and the best they can kill with anything is an 85pt troop or vehicle, so they're wasting most of their firepower. It's also quite easy to engage the Terminators at long range, draw them forward, and then zip past to claim victory in the final turns if the engagement goes poorly early on.
Themewise, this is obviously a raiding force that preys on Space Marines- and really, what better prize?
Hello,
@AbusePuppy:
I actually had a similar idea than yours, ... just using the "bright" Eldar wargear, ... using speed and last turn flat out movement. I am still biting my a** for not putting it up first! ;-)
I won't put my list here as you put the idea into a nice decent list, and I don't want to "steal" your idea. If you still like to compete with my list (even though I think my chances are quite small ;-), just give me a comment and I put it up right here.
Hi schuelerliu -- I'd be interested to see your bright eldar list regardless :)
I'm sure AbusePuppy, the other entrants, as well as the blog readers would welcome the further competition and be eager to see what you can come up with.
I'm always interested in throwing together list, so I put a quick one together using Tau.
Shas'o Commander # 1 with Bodyguard - 292 pts
plasma rifle
fusion blaster
multitracker
Hardwired drone controller
2 gun drone
Bodyguard
Suit #1 has
2 plasma rifles
Drone controller
1 gun drone
Suit #2 has
2 plasma rifles
Drone controller
2 gun drones
Shas'o Commander # 2 with Bodyguard - 292 pts
plasma rifle
fusion blaster
multitracker
Hardwired drone controller
2 gun drone
Bodyguard
Suit #1 has
2 plasma rifles
Drone controller
1 gun drone
Suit #2 has
2 plasma rifles
Drone controller
2 gun drones
Fire Warrior Squad # 1 - 200 pts
12 Fire Warriors
Dedicated Transport
Devilfish
smart missile system
Fire Warrior Squad # 2 - 200 pts
12 Fire Warriors
Dedicated Transport
Devilfish
smart missile system
Fire Warrior Squad # 3 - 200 pts
12 Fire Warriors
Dedicated Transport
Devilfish
smart missile system
Hammerhead #1 - 165 pts
Railgun
2 burst cannons
targeting array
multitracker
Hammerhead #2 - 165 pts
Railgun
2 burst cannons
targeting array
multitracker
Been a while since I wrote any Tau stuff so I think all of that is legal. At 1500 I'm thinking max would be 3 landraiders and 3 units of 5 termies and a leader. This army relies on the railguns making a couple early raider kills, letting the suits cleanup the termies inside with plasma. If needed the Fire Warriors can disembark and torrent the units to death. The suits can jump into and out of rapid fire range for maximum damage without fear of being assaulted.
Theme=Fast, maneuverable and lots of firepower, exactly what Tau are known for.
Hi ctreleheb -- I like your Tau theme of the manoeuvrability combined with torrents of firepower, just as it should be!
Ok then, here is the list a propose:
Autarch (130pts)
Jetbike, Power Weapon, MandiBlaster, Fusion Gun
Farseer (173pts)
Jetbike, Singing Spear, Runes of Warding, Spirit Stones, Guide, Doom
FireDragons w/ WaveSerpent(276pts)
6xFireDragrons
WaveSerpent with TL Brightlances, SpiritStones, StarEngines, VectoredEngines
FireDragons w/ WaveSerpent(276pts)
6xFireDragrons
WaveSerpent with TL Brightlances, SpiritStones, StarEngines, VectoredEngines
FireDragons w/ WaveSerpent(276pts)
6xFireDragrons
WaveSerpent with TL Brightlances, SpiritStones, StarEngines, VectoredEngines
Guardian Jetbike Squad (183 pts)
5xGuardian on Jetbike w/ 1xShurikenCannon
1xWarlock on Jetbike with Singing Spear, Conceal
Guardian Jetbike Squad (183 pts)
5xGuardian on Jetbike w/ 1xShurikenCannon
1xWarlock on Jetbike with Singing Spear, Conceal
Total: 1,497 pts
Both HQ units attach to one of the Jetbike Squads each. However, if necessary they can detach and attack on their own.
Due to the fact, that Eldar still have a 4ed codex, the units are way overpriced (just compare it to the DE force of AbusePuppy).
I need to use Terrain/Cover, Range and superior maneuverability as much as possible to keep range and units alive.
I would deploy slightly forward and try to get some shots on the Landraiders. The Farseer will use guide to get the BrightLances stun/immobilize/destroy some of the Landraiders while moving backward and baiting them away from the target zone. However, it will not be my primary target to destroy my enemy. I just need to slow them down and occupy them with attacking my WaveSerpents. Torrent to death? I just turn them into slack!
The Jetbike Squad & Autarch / Farseer hang back and support and try to reach the target zone in the last 2 turns with their full movement.
I would even win if one/two of the FireDragon Squad is/are totally destroyed while placing one/both Jetbike Squads+HQ in my opponents deployment zone.
Hi Folks,
I think the plain ol' Space Marines are worthy competitors here too. Army list first, explanation second.
2 x Librarian
Null Zone, Vortex of Doom
3 x 5 Drop Pod Sternguard
3x Combi-Plasma 2x Meltagun
2x 5 Tactical Marines
Las-Plas Razorback
3x 2 Multi-Melta Attack Bikes
Vindicator
1500 on the button.
Turn One:
Two pods drop in and deploy sternguard with librarian units x2 into play. Attack bike units turbo boost up to 22" away from the Raiders. Close enough to ensure multi-melta goodness next turn and far enough not to be assaulted.
Razorbacks move up 6", vindicator moves up 12" and pops smoke. Razorbacks shoot first, then librarians, then sternguard. This allows you to use Null Zone if you got lucky with one of the lascannon shots.
Turn two:
Razorbacks move 6" and shoot first again. Attack bikes take out any surviving Raiders. Librarians switch to null zone duty and the rest of the army, joined by the vindicator, shoots the terminators until they are dead.
The vindicator needs to shoot the safest unit to avoid nuking your own guys!
Turn Three and so on,
Razorbacks switch to plasma goodness when raiders are gone. All units eliminate terminators units in order of vulnerability to wipe out. You want full units so that any enemy assaults are likely to result in clean wins so you can carry on with the pigeon shoot.
Five plus no terminators is much better than 2 + 3 in this game.
When the remaining pod comes in it is on tidy-up duty. Landing close by any remaining terminators and helping to drop them with plasma and melta fire.
As for the victory conditions: The pods get your sternguard and libbies across the table while the rest of the army is mobile enough to get there under it's own steam.
Good 'ol marines can still kick it!
Hi schuelerliu -- very nice list there mate! You're dead right about the price competition with dark eldar.
Hi GDNMW -- the case for good old marines looks strong!
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