The burning chariot of Tzeentch is a new option in this codex. It is one that actually has some significant firepower as well. Having access to both S9 AP2 shot and an AP3 flamer template is a great boon for a daemons army - even if it is close range only.
The problems for this unit are multifold however. The warpflame rule means that any unit not dealt with by the attacks will gain feel no pain. I'm really over the warpflame rule: I pretty much don't want to take any Tzeentch unit because of this to be honest. I wonder if it was truly a design mistake in hindsight? An over-nerf of flamers that only needed a tweak? And even the hammer of wrath attack has warpflame as well!
But the chariot itself is a major issue too. With AV10 all around, it really is not hardy at all. A concentrated rapid fire of bolters from a full marine squad could cause one to explode. And that's before factoring they've probably got melta guns in there as well.
In terms of upgrades, I really can't see me taking any. The -1Ld penalty that a blue horror crew would impose is not worth it. The lesser and greater rewards would (on the surface) seem like points that should be better spent elsewhere. So if I were to take this unit (which I don't think I will!), it will certainly be a "naked" none-upgraded one.
Overall, a nice addition, but one that could have done without warpflame to be worth the points. And even then, I feel that landspeeders do it slightly better.
The problems for this unit are multifold however. The warpflame rule means that any unit not dealt with by the attacks will gain feel no pain. I'm really over the warpflame rule: I pretty much don't want to take any Tzeentch unit because of this to be honest. I wonder if it was truly a design mistake in hindsight? An over-nerf of flamers that only needed a tweak? And even the hammer of wrath attack has warpflame as well!
But the chariot itself is a major issue too. With AV10 all around, it really is not hardy at all. A concentrated rapid fire of bolters from a full marine squad could cause one to explode. And that's before factoring they've probably got melta guns in there as well.
In terms of upgrades, I really can't see me taking any. The -1Ld penalty that a blue horror crew would impose is not worth it. The lesser and greater rewards would (on the surface) seem like points that should be better spent elsewhere. So if I were to take this unit (which I don't think I will!), it will certainly be a "naked" none-upgraded one.
Overall, a nice addition, but one that could have done without warpflame to be worth the points. And even then, I feel that landspeeders do it slightly better.
Not sure what you mean by "guaranteed"? Its a toughness test. Theres always a chance of failing.
ReplyDeleteHi Ian,
ReplyDelete....wondering if this comment was meant for a different post?
Best regards,
jabberjabber
Warpflame. Unless its different to the psychic power version (i only have the cards) then its a toughness test.
ReplyDeleteDid they ever FAQ the Hvy weapon deal with this crappy unit?
ReplyDeleteHi Ian,
ReplyDeleteAh I see where you're coming from (I got confused by "guaranteed". Yes - it is a toughness test. But in a local meta with heaps of marines, the likelihood is that the test will be passed, hence my overall negativity!
Best regards, jabberjabber
Hi Cruzcontrol39: no they didn't.
ReplyDeleteThey really should... That's the main reason i haven't bought one...
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