tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post5211683093167866154..comments2024-03-22T11:52:31.735+00:00Comments on Warpstone Flux: CSM in 6th Review: Defilerjabberjabberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15314798958920326898noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-3775065564903530482012-11-22T18:28:00.532+00:002012-11-22T18:28:00.532+00:00I think it's decent, I just think that the Hel...I think it's decent, I just think that the Helldrake is better. It's 50 pts. more expensive, but you do get a lot of benefit from it. If the Blight Drone were cheaper (or had It Will Not Die) and the Phlegm mode on the Maw cannon was Ordinance it would be a serious contendor, being able to scare large amounts of heavy infantry and up to medium armor at the same time.<br /><br />But if youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-86020658546995885012012-11-22T10:29:06.206+00:002012-11-22T10:29:06.206+00:00See also Imperial Armour Apocalypse vol.II.
I r...See also Imperial Armour Apocalypse vol.II. <br /><br />I rather like the Blight Drone! I think it has a very nice place in daemons armies at the moment!jabberjabberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15314798958920326898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-29664344453933439972012-11-22T05:37:23.861+00:002012-11-22T05:37:23.861+00:00The Blight Drone is a Forgeworld flier. It's B...The Blight Drone is a Forgeworld flier. It's BS2 AV12/11/10 Hover, daemon. It's got a Reaper and a maw cannon, with either vomit or phlegm, your choosing. It's a Fast choice for Daemons and CSM, but if you want it in CSM you must take a unit of Plague Marines, and it costs 120 points. It's not as good as a Helldrake, but it's cheaper, and does something different in that you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-26700570564941478282012-11-22T01:23:05.530+00:002012-11-22T01:23:05.530+00:00I have no idea what a blight drone is. Is it in t...I have no idea what a blight drone is. Is it in the Codex?Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11779446895154364902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-29975219317785200972012-11-21T20:57:12.270+00:002012-11-21T20:57:12.270+00:00Well I did convert mine a considerable amount, so ...Well I did convert mine a considerable amount, so they are much closer now to the height of Forgefiends. They're also both quadrupedal beast-things, so they do look a lot like Forgefiends built of Defiler parts. The Defiler model itself is certainly too large.<br /><br />I could see converting a zeppelin-like craft to count as a Nurgle Blight Drone. Those are a lot more like hovering flyers Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-28602965456159150042012-11-21T16:45:29.549+00:002012-11-21T16:45:29.549+00:00LOL at your Freudian slip - not that you seem to h...LOL at your Freudian slip - not that you seem to have prejudice against the Defiler. I admit I like the aesthetics, but if you did it as counts-as you'd still be standing tall for LOS (both good and bad). <br /><br />And I'll admit to liking a lot of the aesthetics of the Forgefiend from my steampunk army perspective, although it could be improved. I don't mind rounded edges so Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11779446895154364902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-88963243618144750732012-11-21T10:02:16.568+00:002012-11-21T10:02:16.568+00:00lol on cram vs. crap! :-)lol on cram vs. crap! :-)jabberjabberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15314798958920326898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-90046415606837671372012-11-21T07:25:58.774+00:002012-11-21T07:25:58.774+00:00*cram, not crap. Man, talk about your Freudian sli...*cram, not crap. Man, talk about your Freudian slip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-4093840078385514212012-11-21T07:24:52.820+00:002012-11-21T07:24:52.820+00:00You're right; I just checked the options, and ...You're right; I just checked the options, and you can't get a second reaper. Never mind, shove that thing back in its box, and hope it gets better next edition. Or, do what I did; convert them into counts-as Forgefiends/Maulerfiends. You now have the aesthetics of a Defiler, and the functionality of your chosen counts-as, because frankly the Forge/Maulerfiend models are not what I call &Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-24724265492943953752012-11-21T05:56:27.658+00:002012-11-21T05:56:27.658+00:00Tim, how would I be able to get more than 1 TL gun...Tim, how would I be able to get more than 1 TL gun b/c Ican't figure it out.? And I agree with you I think - the reaper is the best gun option for the Defiler. I'm thinking my Defiler will be pretty close to the basic model with an upgrade for Warpflame Gargoyles and an extra storm bolter (not sure how to model those though).Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11779446895154364902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-11605784820399392732012-11-21T00:14:10.021+00:002012-11-21T00:14:10.021+00:00If you are dead-set on the Defiler, load-up on twi...If you are dead-set on the Defiler, load-up on twin-linked guns. Not only will it help you when you're firing along with the Battle Cannon, but with two twin-linked guns (personally I favor the reaper) you can be a decent anti-air platform. 4 twin-linked shots with a pair of reapers will net you on average 1.167 hits on a flier, and that's nothing to sniff at, considering fliers are at Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-6285953738798808682012-11-20T19:12:58.965+00:002012-11-20T19:12:58.965+00:00It occurred to me as I was reading your reply, tha...It occurred to me as I was reading your reply, that if all you do is snap shots, the BS doesn't matter. Both the Reaper and the TL Lascannon will hit about 1/3 of the time. So the question is whether or not the LC is worth it's cost every third turn. As you point out, that may be a question as to its survival ability. Alone, it will get wasted by turn 2. However, if you have a Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11779446895154364902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-8708298599907718092012-11-20T10:18:24.723+00:002012-11-20T10:18:24.723+00:00Hi Dan:
Excellent points -- particularly about the...Hi Dan:<br />Excellent points -- particularly about the havoc launcher!<br />The TL lascannon vs the reaper ... hmmmm. Constant BS3 snapshots are okay with twin-linked ... but this has to be weighed against how long we think the defiler should/can last in a game. <br />I think you're dead right about having an extra weapon to lower the chances of removing the battle cannon - so yes, its jabberjabberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15314798958920326898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-13467327975586212242012-11-19T17:37:45.136+00:002012-11-19T17:37:45.136+00:00I am building a steampunky looking Chaos Space Mar...I am building a steampunky looking Chaos Space Marines force and the Defiler looks way too steampunky (especially with a smoke stack)for me to leave out. I plan to keep him in the back as a shooter though (I think... I may experiment with him as an assault unit though just because I'm a bit short in that department).<br /><br />Anyway, I have been contemplating various builds and I wanted toDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11779446895154364902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-52020674072116907952012-11-18T18:35:01.317+00:002012-11-18T18:35:01.317+00:00Great article...I diagree with Tim the defiler use...Great article...I diagree with Tim the defiler used to be scary.<br />And who knows if they willingly outprice the Defiler.<br />Tzeentch powers also kinda tend to suck...which seems odd to me.Malthushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00815756393747762853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1130256473248019105.post-4888090032286680092012-11-17T23:52:54.633+00:002012-11-17T23:52:54.633+00:00"Overall, I think the defiler has priced itse..."Overall, I think the defiler has priced itself out of the heavy support slot now - its an all rounder that's got expensive." - You nailed it. It's not a vehicle with duality, it's a vehicle with versatility. Versatility meaning rather than trying to do two things well (duality) it tries to do everything, and fails. The worst inclusion is the points spent on Fleet and 2 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com